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@@Zarrakon i'm imagining it now what

@ Comedy writes itself

@@Zarrakon if you wanna hear me talk more off the cuff and off script i also stream! :)

praise plogons :)

@@Adonteon21 im ngl it got real tedious, especially during bozja spam and dps roulettes

@@reloadpsi its funny that you say that, because i think most of the AF gear before like, endwalker looks like dogwater on lala. on the flipside though, if you can make a glam that looks good on lalafell, it'll also look good on basically any other race too, which makes my april fools transformations extra fun

@@obscurereference8798 I intentionally avoided making jokes about holy spam because I thought it was too easy lmao

@@Bonzi77 I appreciate the viewpoint and also understand the realities of making youtube videos for more than just shitposting but don't forget that just because it's easy doesn't mean it's wrong, lol

@@alibutterfly82 if you aint holy spammin you aint livin

@@Bonzi77 This is going to sound now like I'm saying it in jest since it's in response to what you just said, but truly - Holy spam and its trash stun is part of your healing kit, and I don't think enough people appreciate that. Stuns = no incoming damage until they wear off = you keeping your tank alive, while also fulfilling your secondary priority aka damage.

@ i keep trying to tell people stuns are mit and nobody listens to me!!

@@Bonzi77 Well... at least we know there's two of us preaching the gospel of "stuns are mit" ;-p

your channel is old enough to drive.

@ my channel's about to be old enough to get a fuckin mortgage man this is wild

@@Laossutra yeah, sorry man. its back to the runescape mines for us

@Bonzi77 😭❤️😭

The second half of the video is basically me discussing how I feel about content scaling across the entire main scenario questline. give that a watch if you're interested, and I'd be curious to hear your further thoughts after that. and if I misunderstood and you're responding to the whole video, I guess I'm not really sure what you mean by this comment and thats on me lol

@@Bonzi77 I watched it, (commented right before the SHB part tbh) but the thing is simply, the "this is easy, too easy" is such a weird concept for a game, let alone one made for a wide general audience and not a niche hardcore one. Around SHB, every dungeon was demanding much more out of me as a healer and ive gotten used to it, each expansion has been like that. Even the new Jueno I've gotten used to but Ive had to hard carry the healing there at times. Is it easy? yes, but most games are made for that, even if its competitive like a MOBA, its generally easy, so people can pick it up, play it, and enjoy it. I never felt a love for say Astro being "harder and more demanding" when its just as simple, more convoluted, and jsut busier with ogcd options for instance. Still on the other end of maining the easiest healer, and having a white mage glam that clearly states im a WHM, I get lots of people wanting me to teach them what are now years of healing optimization, or even just the base of the WHM class up to 90... They do this cause its "the easiest" and I find it outright insulting when I talk with them just to learn they have basically never touched healing in the game and jsut thought they could do a good job... meanwhile Ive had to hard carry in Jueno as WHM as if I was solo healing... meanwhile i haer comments even here about white never healing.

@ yeah, i get what you mean there. healing IS definitely a thankless job, and some people make it look really effortless. my thing is that, looking at healing from a casual perspective, ease of entry becomes a MUCH bigger deal when you're not going to be especially pushing the boundaries of any given job. personally, i think it's best to think of WHM as a stepping stone or entry way to the more complex world of healing, and if you think about it, pretty much every role has that. now, i actually don't think every role _needs_ that entry quite like healing does, because i think it's good for some things to just be difficult, with no alternative. summoner used to be a complex, nearly broken mess, but it was a complex mess that people worked around and figured out. now it's been pulled back to one of the most simple rotations in the game, to the point where its skill ceiling and floor are nearly an overlapping line. i hope it's clear that me stating that the baseline level of a job being easy isn't quite the same as the high-end hardcore complexity of jobs in cutting edge content. and for what it's worth, i do agree with you that if somebody is boosting to 90 and then immediately demanding somebody teach them wtf to do on the fly, that's a problem with the person who boosted, and isn't a great mentality to play the game with.

@@Bonzi77 In general? yeah but in 14? Itrs loved, ive gotten so much love I got off my MOBA games for 14 cause people actually appreciated me as a healer/support here. that ease of entry is def early ARR, the very early duties all feel like testing the players if they paid attention to halls of the novice and such. WHMs simplicity is also in large part its strentgh, theres a lot of stuff in other healers where you can combo things, do this and that for a bigger effect or soemthing but WHM is very much "lillies? free 0 mp cost cure 2 potency, or medica potency". so much of it is really really damn powerful I think scholar should be simplified next, it has a ton of niche buttons i may or may never touch. but I sadly cannot enjoy summoner as its jsut burning through the spells until theyre used up... I think id rather try out the more complicated version of it i hear about... least in the pvp its fun and interesting. those people enver DEMANDED i do anyhting, they asked, and id find out they knew so little about anything... healing, ogcds, spell weaving, slide casting, etc... that it becomes clear to me they simply just boosted the job, like how are you gonna be a whm and not know a major mechanical ability you have like lillies??? not even blood lily, LILLIES... and basically I wasted my time trying to teach them a bunch of stuff because theyre more than likely going to be playing their boosted healer AT that high level they bought and not tkae it from the bottom like I do when I get a class thats not from ARR. to try and minimize the pain of learning theyre gonna need... not jsut healers either, its very evident when someone doesnt know a common mechanic, like CHAINS, which can easily wipe at the end of HW at lvl 60... personal story but still, the tank and dps didnt recognize the chains nor do them correctly and I was told over and over again they "got it this time"... its probably why the ahll of the novice has been updated with extra motivation, like the new ring i got for extra leveling my ARR classes. im really happy baout that and i can only hope it helps prevent some booster from say being my tank or healer, some of them even stream yet they boosted and thought "oh this (whm) will be easy". THATS why i find it insulting. not you, or your ideas on it, its meant to be very easy and I love it for that.

Would deff be interested in a mahjong vid

@@hybridlawify i'm actually super excited about the scholar one, that's one of the videos I'm planning on having a guest for!! i'm afraid i wont have much very flattering to say... but my guest will!

I main WHM and SCH too! I am curious what you think of the MNK changes? I actually like the rotation now as its something less to worry about when doing mechanics as MNK use to be heavy on positionals. Now you can sorta shut that part off and focus on mechanics and flow

@@SemekiIzuio i'm unfortunately that type of mnk main who loved positionals and misses them HAHA... ironically i feel like having to focus on those + rotation + mechanics in a dungeon or raid really scratched that itch for me, but i'm also the type of person who needs to have multiple things going on concurrently in order to fully focus. that said, i think from an overall perspective it's probably a good thing mnk had the overhaul, mostly because i hope it'll mean more people will try it out and pick it to main. i love mnk with all my heart even now and it always makes me so excited to see new mnk mains!! i plan on restructuring my bars and getting back to playing mnk though... eventually.

@@hybridlawify understandable, although I may not agree on the simplification for a lot of jobs in EW DT, mnk was the one that made things better considering how heavy savages and extreme are in end content compared to the stuff in SB and prior but well I wasnt a mnk main even though I enjoyed it, it was one those high ceiling dps so perhaps it's why I found it much more accessible now? Unfortunately it suffered from being a top dps because of this as they are trying to make every job the same now.

@@guffels probably my favorite joke in the whole video besides the v sauce parody. It's a little gust of wind that makes it hit for me.

i have been trying to roll for joseph for three weeks. i'm in hell.

@@Bonzi77 I definitely haven't spent a ton of money getting the ones I want on that haha who would spend money on a chinese gacha game? Definitely not me 😐

@@swiftdasher i'd be curious to hear more about that; believe it or not, i dont really get too many comments actually interrogating my opinions lol

​@@Bonzi77 I feel like if I really went into it I'd just end up sounding like "my opinion good your opinion bad" and that's not what I'm out here trying to do. I play hardcore casual too in the way you described, I probably just enjoy things in a different way than you do. If you were presenting this as any kind of authority I'd maybe dig into what you're saying more but you're just out here saying why you like what you like and that's great. To make it short, I was given pause when you said you have a hard time justifying playing different healer jobs. I don't know if you NEVER do or just prefer to be a chill guy in a white mage outfit throwing out heals and that's what you do most often, but I definitely mix it up depending on content, but at the same time I like feeling like I'm able to carry groups in whatever role I'm playing. I suppose the main thing was the reduction of WHM to "DOTs, heals, mechanics", because I'm my experience a lot of WHM and AST players, moreso WHM, talk like the class is just topping up after damage, but the kits are all pretty similar in that you need to know what's coming and prepare for it so you can have more DPS uptime, although the healers have a lot more leeway with than than the barrier jobs do. Anyway, good stuff overall, appreciate the open mindedness asking for details. Also obligatory "Ninja isn't even that hard man"

given what I said in the video, your opinion makes a lot of sense. I think one thing I could've emphasized better is the fact that healer is by far my least played role, so I tend to seek out ease of use when I do play it. good insights all around except that ninja thing i'm sorry i cant let it slide. mudras scarey

@@Bonzi77 that makes a lot more sense with it being your least played role, gotcha. I like healer because it's just kind of a vibe, but you can also get really sweaty with it. my main healer is Sage so I'm a barrier boy but I do really enjoy white mage, it's very chill and feels really good. My real main is ninja though, you just go bing bing bong debuff bing, bing bong lightning bolt bing, bing bong lightning bolt, nothing to it 😂

Correct!

Whm heals a bunch

I'd honestly not mind pressing one button if it was a healing button. If they're going to make healers do damage, I'm glad it's at least simple.

HEY! When I played White Mage I DID heal and I pressed TWO buttons!

@@obscurereference8798 hmmmmmmm.....

@@Sylviaon the funny thing is, if it weren't for the card mechanic, I feel like astrologian would be way lower. the cards alone just increase the mental stack and APM needed to play efficiently pretty heavily. scholar is only so high because i just generally have a hard time wrapping my head around it, but thats my problem mch is higher for me due to high complexity apm reasons (same as gnb, viper is so low because even though it requires high apm it feels like pretty simple high apm and the filler is really easy) and rdm is higher due to still needing to be pretty flexible in reacting to procs i definitely see an argument for having dnc lower though

also i completely agree with you about difficulty scaling. in arr i felt like i could basically heal without paying much attention at all just because nothing did any damage, and in hw/stb i had enough tools to completely rely on ogcd healing without having to manage cooldowns or pay much attention to how i used them, so when I got to shb and mechanics started somewhat mattering and I needed to actually plan my moves to succeed optimally i had an expansion long mental breakdown where i reverted to a pure ranged-DPS player before finally locking in and learning how to properly succeed with my preferred role... strongly remember my first time in malikahs well, coming out of an msq roulette and still being in the mindset of "none of this matters and i may as well stand in puddles if i want" only to get instakilled by that damn armadillo and actually loved it. its weird that so much of the early game is essentially filler, disguised by the fact that you're too new to know it doesnt matter yet. anyways, good vid, i enjoyed hearing your thoughts and the editing was good!

@@Bonzi77 oh yeah sch is definitely hard, no debate there. I don't get it either lol fair enough on your rankings! personally i think dnc is the hardest of the three i mentioned cuz its just so random and all the procs make me stare at my hotbar and get clipped by attacks haha

It's becos Whm is easier than Ast. And they're both easier than Scholar or Sage.

@@zlonewolf hardest part of sge is remembering which futuristic-looking blue button is which

@@doodle_kun might have to turn on the notification bell if you want guaranteed notifications, subscriptions arent what they used to be on youtube lol

@@Bonzi77 compelling argument , im convinced.

the video i have in mind right now is "How I Learned Mahjong"

"I just think she's neat"

Shes also an astrologist and black mage 😂

Honestly, just build it back from the beginning. The way I learn advanced jobs that start at higher levels is to just go through all the skills one at a time, and piece together how they fit as you go through the levels. If you're really lost, a new run of Palace of the Dead can be a really good way to give yourself an enforced crash course through the basics. Failing all that, look up some youtube guides! Caetsu Chaiji Ch. and Wesk Alber are my personal go-tos.

@@terminalSloth yup! just slapped level 70 mobs with a friend. but honestly, the leveling is only the beginning. learning the spells is where the true challenge begins